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Traveller-digest    Wednesday, December 1 1999    Volume 1999 : Number 1418<BR>
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(R)1996. Traveller is a registered trademark of FarFuture Enterprises.<BR>
All rights reserved.<BR>
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The following topics are covered in this digest:<BR>
<BR>
Iridium-class Solar Yacht (GTL12) - corrected<BR>
Valkyrie-class Light Fighter (GTL9) - corrected<BR>
Valkyrie B-class Light Fighter (GTL9) - new<BR>
Re: early christian writings and roman rumors<BR>
Re: Goryo-class Medium Fighter (GTL9) - corrected<BR>
Re: Sci fi films<BR>
re: Police ranks<BR>
Re: Lost Kieth Supplements going for 101<BR>
Re: Police ranks<BR>
Re: early christian writings and roman rumors<BR>
Re: early christian writings and roman rumors<BR>
Irony<BR>
Percussive Maintenance<BR>
Re: Peer Review Problems (Re: Sci fi films)<BR>
Re: early christian writings and roman rumors<BR>
Re: Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Machinery (was Re: Sci fi films)<BR>
Re: Bifrost-class Solar Shuttle (GTL9)<BR>
Re: Police Career<BR>
Re: Iridium-class Solar Yacht (GTL12) - corrected<BR>
Re: Rule of man coin<BR>
Re:  Low TL Medicines <BR>
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:11:26 -0500<BR>
From: Robert Prior <robert_prior@sympatico.ca><BR>
Subject: Iridium-class Solar Yacht (GTL12) - corrected<BR>
<BR>
A 'corrected' version of the Iridium. Whether sails like this are possible<BR>
is up for grabs. In particular, I doubt this thrust is available in the<BR>
specified sail size (360 sq mi). I'll reality-check the GS/3 rules tomorrow.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Iridium-class Solar Yacht (GTL12)<BR>
<BR>
Crew: 1 bridge crew<BR>
<BR>
3 OF, DR 100, Cockpit, 3 Light Sails<BR>
<BR>
Statistics: EMass 73.7 tonnes, LMass 73.7 tonnes, Cost: 77.37 MCr, HP: 117,<BR>
Size Mod: +5<BR>
<BR>
Performance: Accel: 3.0 G<BR>
<BR>
Structure	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
3-dton super-light hull, standard materials	(3.0)	0.0	0.0	786<BR>
	-<BR>
DR 100 bonded superdense armour	-	1.4	0.1	-	-<BR>
CCCI	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
Cockpit	1.0	4.3	2.3	-	1-2<BR>
Engineering	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
3 light sails (217.7 tonnes thrust)	1.5	68.0	75.0	-	-<BR>
Other Modules	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
Empty space	0.5	-	-	-	-<BR>
Totals	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
Empty	3.0	73.7	77.4	786	0<BR>
Fitted out	3.0	73.7	77.4	786	0<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Robert Prior, 1999.  (Designed with GT Shipyard.  Robert Prior, 1999.)<BR>
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:14:28 -0500<BR>
From: Robert Prior <robert_prior@sympatico.ca><BR>
Subject: Valkyrie-class Light Fighter (GTL9) - corrected<BR>
<BR>
A 'corrected' versionof the Valkyrie. As with the olther lightsail ships,<BR>
the congruence between GURPS rules and reality is up for grabs right now...<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Valkyrie-class Light Fighter (GTL9)<BR>
<BR>
Crew: 1 bridge crew, 1 gunner<BR>
<BR>
3 OF, DR 100, 1 Triple 101 MJ Laser Turret, Basic Stealth, Basic Emission<BR>
Cloaking, Hardened Cockpit, 1 Light Sail<BR>
<BR>
Weapon	Type	Acc	Damage	1/2D Rng	Max Rng	RoF<BR>
101 MJ Rainbow Laser	Imp	31	8d x 20	36,864 km	69,120 km<BR>
	1/60<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Statistics: EMass 64.4 tonnes, LMass 64.4 tonnes, Cost: 32.37 MCr, HP:<BR>
1,179, Size Mod: +5<BR>
<BR>
Performance: Accel: 1.1 G<BR>
<BR>
Structure	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
3-dton medium hull, standard materials	(3.0)	1.1	0.0	786	-<BR>
1 turret (DR 100)	1.0	6.6	0.1	800	-<BR>
DR 100 durasteel armour	-	5.3	0.1	-	-<BR>
Basic stealth	-	0.4	0.1	-	-<BR>
Basic emission cloaking	-	0.4	0.1	-	-<BR>
CCCI	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
Cockpit with hardened controls	1.0	4.6	2.7	-	1-2<BR>
Engineering	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
1 light sail (72.6 tonnes thrust)	0.5	22.7	25.0	-	-<BR>
Weaponry	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
1 triple 101 MJ laser turret	(3.0)	23.5	4.3	-	1-1<BR>
Other Modules	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
Empty space	0.5	-	-	-	-<BR>
Totals	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
Empty	3.0	64.4	32.4	1,586	0<BR>
Fitted out	3.0	64.4	32.4	1,586	0<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Robert Prior, 1999.  (Designed with GT Shipyard.  Robert Prior, 1999.)<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:14:11 -0500<BR>
From: Robert Prior <robert_prior@sympatico.ca><BR>
Subject: Valkyrie B-class Light Fighter (GTL9) - new<BR>
<BR>
When I fixed the Valjyrie I noticed that the acceleration is now quite low.<BR>
So I added a sail into the empty space. I figure this is an upgrade, for<BR>
circumstances where the extra speed is required.<BR>
<BR>
Valkyrie B-class Light Fighter (GTL9)<BR>
<BR>
Crew: 1 bridge crew, 1 gunner<BR>
<BR>
3 OF, DR 100, 1 Triple 101 MJ Laser Turret, Basic Stealth, Basic Emission<BR>
Cloaking, Hardened Cockpit, 2 Light Sails<BR>
<BR>
Weapon	Type	Acc	Damage	1/2D Rng	Max Rng	RoF<BR>
101 MJ Rainbow Laser	Imp	31	8d x 20	36,864 km	69,120 km<BR>
	1/60<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Statistics: EMass 87.1 tonnes, LMass 87.1 tonnes, Cost: 57.37 MCr, HP:<BR>
1,179, Size Mod: +5<BR>
<BR>
Performance: Accel: 1.7 G<BR>
<BR>
Structure	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
3-dton medium hull, standard materials	(3.0)	1.1	0.0	786	-<BR>
1 turret (DR 100)	1.0	6.6	0.1	800	-<BR>
DR 100 durasteel armour	-	5.3	0.1	-	-<BR>
Basic stealth	-	0.4	0.1	-	-<BR>
Basic emission cloaking	-	0.4	0.1	-	-<BR>
CCCI	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
Cockpit with hardened controls	1.0	4.6	2.7	-	1-2<BR>
Engineering	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
2 light sails (145.1 tonnes thrust)	1.0	45.3	50.0	-	-<BR>
Weaponry	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
1 triple 101 MJ laser turret	(3.0)	23.5	4.3	-	1-1<BR>
Other Modules	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
Totals	Spaces	Mass	Cost	Area	Crew<BR>
Empty	3.0	87.1	57.4	1,586	0<BR>
Fitted out	3.0	87.1	57.4	1,586	0<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Robert Prior, 1999.  (Designed with GT Shipyard.  Robert Prior, 1999.)<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:35:53 -0500<BR>
From: "Swordy (Colin MIchael)" <swordworlder@clinic.net><BR>
Subject: Re: early christian writings and roman rumors<BR>
<BR>
- ----- Original Message -----<BR>
From: Robert Prior <robert_prior@sympatico.ca><BR>
> >Or "Surspised By Joy", by C.S. Lewis, a Sci-Fi writer and infamous<BR>
atheist.<BR>
><BR>
> Atheist?  C.S.Lewis, the man who wrote "The Screwtape Letters"?<BR>
<BR>
The very same.  Anyone read his Space Trilogy?<BR>
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:50:44 -0800<BR>
From: "Bruce Macintosh" <bruce.macintosh@worldnet.att.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Goryo-class Medium Fighter (GTL9) - corrected<BR>
<BR>
>Here is a 'corrected' version of the Goryo. Whether this is possible<BR>
>without a larger sail than specified in GS/3 is debatable. This fits the<BR>
>rules, but whether the rules fit reality...<BR>
<BR>
A 1-G solar-sail powered craft that is only about 33% (by mass) sail?<BR>
Not even remotely plausible with any concievable technology; the formulae<BR>
(or your interpretation of them) must be messed up. Could you post the<BR>
exact formula from GS/3?<BR>
<BR>
Bruce<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:54:32 -0600<BR>
From: "Clint Williams" <aremis@amaonline.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Sci fi films<BR>
<BR>
Peter Trevor wrote<BR>
>I've found lots of engineering PCs (and non-engineering PCs  too)<BR>
>bash things as a first resort  ...  "Emergency  Repair  Procedure<BR>
>number 1" they call it.  Just to keep them on  their  toes,  next<BR>
>time they bash  some  misfunctioning  piece  of  equipment:  have<BR>
>something drop off!  <evil grin><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
I was once a DJ at an unbelievably small radio station, some of the<BR>
equipment required ERP #1 often.  If that didn't work we knew we were in<BR>
trouble and needed a professional, not that we could afford one.<BR>
~Clint<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 19:19:43 +1300<BR>
From: pbroeder@wave.co.nz<BR>
Subject: re: Police ranks<BR>
<BR>
I found this a while ago. It was posted on a Delta green archive as a<BR>
parody but it's probably useful for generating  planetary police swat<BR>
teams....<BR>
<BR>
yes, I should just post the link, but I've lost it. :)<BR>
<BR>
Jonathan<BR>
<BR>
SWAT Team Name Generator<BR>
(c)1999 by Keith J. Potter<BR>
<BR>
QRT, ESU, GSS, HRT, ETC, etc etc--it seems like every police department<BR>
in the US wants their own special operations team, and in the<BR>
euphemistically-driven spirit of the times nobody wants to call it a<BR>
SWAT<BR>
team anymore.  To that end, I offer the following to those Keepers who<BR>
find<BR>
their PC's in a strange city and suddenly forced to call forth police<BR>
assistance in the face of some Mythos threat...  Why have the plain old<BR>
SWAT<BR>
team show up when you can, with just a few rolls of the dice, bring out<BR>
a<BR>
new and excitingly-named unit such as the Rapid Entry Group, the<BR>
Emergency<BR>
Tasking Division, or the Situational Equipment Squad!<BR>
<BR>
   Simply roll 1D10 on each of the following tables...  For easy<BR>
variations,<BR>
simply juggle the word order, or roll more than once (or not at all) on<BR>
any<BR>
of the tables:<BR>
<BR>
   First Word:<BR>
  1. Special<BR>
  2. Emergency<BR>
  3. Crisis<BR>
  4. Quick<BR>
  5. Rapid<BR>
  6. Standby<BR>
  7. Incident(al)<BR>
  8. Department(al)<BR>
  9. Situation(al)<BR>
 10. Tactic(al)<BR>
<BR>
  Second Word:<BR>
  1. Equipment<BR>
  2. Management<BR>
  3. Response<BR>
  4. Reaction<BR>
  5. Tasking<BR>
  6. Support<BR>
  7. Services<BR>
  8. Entry<BR>
  9. Duty<BR>
 10. Rescue<BR>
<BR>
 Third Word:<BR>
  1. Team<BR>
  2. Unit<BR>
  3. Squad<BR>
  4. Troop<BR>
  5. Division<BR>
  6. Column<BR>
  7. Crew<BR>
  8. Force<BR>
  9. Group<BR>
 10. Posse<BR>
<BR>
   Gotta go now...  The Tactical Rescue Posse just took the front door<BR>
off<BR>
its hinges...<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 00:20:23 -0600<BR>
From: "Eris Reddoch" <eris@pcola.gulf.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Lost Kieth Supplements going for 101<BR>
<BR>
On 12/01/99 at 12:48 AM,  "Boris Cibic" <kafka47@hotmail.com> said:<BR>
<BR>
>I am sure that it has been posted a hundred times but lets make 101. <BR>
>Could  anyone tell me how to order the Lost Keith Supplements.  Feel<BR>
>free to email  back directly.  kafka47@hotmail.com<BR>
>thanks<BR>
<BR>
I can't give you a url, but Paul Sanders is on the list.  His<BR>
address is <timmon@primenet.com><BR>
<BR>
Eris<BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
- -----------------------------------------------------------<BR>
"Eris Reddoch" <eris@pcola.gulf.net>    using MR/2 ICE #245<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:23:23 +1000<BR>
From: david.d.jaques-watson@centrelink.gov.au<BR>
Subject: Re: Police ranks<BR>
<BR>
Dear Folks -<BR>
<BR>
Chris said:<BR>
>>"Commissioner of Police", since there is no monarch to receive a commission<BR>
>>from.<BR>
><BR>
>Anyhow, we *do* have Commissioners here in America. In Gotham City there's<BR>
>Commissioner Gordon (he should be hitting retirement any day now).<BR>
<BR>
Doh! I should be shot for forgetting him! I was just going off Jeff's comments,<BR>
and not actually *thinking*.<BR>
<BR>
Wasn't "The Commish" set in the suburbs? Different jurisdiction from the city<BR>
beat? Jeff, help!?!<BR>
<BR>
Oh well, just another example to prove that you can make cops IYTU as diverse as<BR>
you please...<BR>
<BR>
Gleen said:<BR>
>Before we get too far into Yanks-and-Brits in Space,<BR>
>let's remember that law enforcement can occur under a<BR>
>large variety of paradigms.<BR>
[snip]<BR>
>To what extent can character<BR>
>generation give different flavors to these<BR>
>experiences?<BR>
<BR>
Precisely my point! I said:<BR>
>Naturally, since local law enforcement _by definition_ is local, there is no<BR>
>problem for one world using the US notation, another using the UK notation,<BR>
>another using something completely different (eg. "commisars" or whatever).<BR>
<BR>
(To be honest, I used Brit/Oz notation because Jeff's "Lieutenant" and "Captain"<BR>
was too US-based for me. Presumably the reverse is also true. ;-)  I didn't have<BR>
time or inclination to create alternate naming systems, just creating the one<BR>
chargen system was hard enough!)<BR>
<BR>
My suggestion is to use more than one generation system (if you're keen enough)<BR>
to create the various NPC police you may need in your campaign. At the same<BR>
time, another method you can use is to create NPCs from different branches, and<BR>
simply substitute an alternate rank table.<BR>
<BR>
OK, so would people now like to come up with a few alternates for E1-E7 and<BR>
O1-O7?<BR>
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David "Hyphen" Jaques-Watson        Beowulf Down (Tavonni/Vilis/SM 1520)<BR>
http://www.tip.net.au/~davidjw                       davidjw@pcug.org.au<BR>
"I file things in historical order, with a hashing algorithm of gravity"<BR>
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of the author and do not necessarily represent, in whole or in part, the<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:26:36 -0800<BR>
From: "Kelly St.Clair" <kellys@efn.org><BR>
Subject: Re: early christian writings and roman rumors<BR>
<BR>
Robert Prior <robert_prior@sympatico.ca> wrote:<BR>
<BR>
>>Or "Surspised By Joy", by C.S. Lewis, a Sci-Fi writer and infamous atheist.<BR>
<BR>
Various other people wrote:<BR>
> No he wasn't!<BR>
<BR>
Sigh.  Irony is dead.<BR>
<BR>
I guess we DO need to start sprinkling smileys like periods.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
- --------------<BR>
Kelly St.Clair   "The Jigglypuff's trilling seems to have a <BR>
kellys@efn.org    tranquilizing effect on the human nervous system.<BR>
                  Fortunately, I am... immune..."<BR>
                            -- Mr. Spock, THE TROUBLE WITH POKEMON<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 00:37:28 -0600<BR>
From: "Eris Reddoch" <eris@pcola.gulf.net><BR>
Subject: Re: early christian writings and roman rumors<BR>
<BR>
On 12/01/99 at 11:59 AM,  David Healey <dhealey@giant.net.au> said:<BR>
<BR>
>>Or "Surspised By Joy", by C.S. Lewis, a Sci-Fi writer and infamous atheist.<BR>
<BR>
>One assumes you mean Wyndham Lewis, rather than the infamous<BR>
>Christian C.S. Lewis ?  The series of "The Lion, et al", is<BR>
>considered by some to be an easy-read Bible.<BR>
<BR>
Hum, well as I understand it, C. S. Lewis was an atheist as a young<BR>
man.  Then well into adulthood, and after a long spiritual journey<BR>
he had a Christian conversion.  I suppose you could say he became<BR>
something of an infamous Christian.<BR>
<BR>
"Surprised By Joy" is C. S. Lewis' autobiography.  Within it he<BR>
charts his spiritual journey, describing it as a search for joy.<BR>
<BR>
Eris<BR>
- -- <BR>
- -----------------------------------------------------------<BR>
"Eris Reddoch" <eris@pcola.gulf.net>    using MR/2 ICE #245<BR>
- -----------------------------------------------------------<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:57:59 -0800<BR>
From: Richard Hough <corvus@telus.net><BR>
Subject: Irony<BR>
<BR>
>  >Or "Surspised By Joy", by C.S. Lewis, a Sci-Fi writer and infamous atheist.<BR>
><BR>
>Atheist?  C.S.Lewis, the man who wrote "The Screwtape Letters"?<BR>
<BR>
I suspect this is an example of irony; your key to quality writing.<BR>
- --<BR>
Richard Hough<BR>
rdhough@telus.net<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 02:52:16 EST<BR>
From: GypsyComet@aol.com<BR>
Subject: Percussive Maintenance<BR>
<BR>
>> I've heard it called "percussive maintenance" -- not<BR>
>> in Traveller, but by real world engineers.<BR>
><BR>
>Ah yes, the barbaric "Tap Test", a time-honored tradition among<BR>
>engineers, particularly *mechanical* engineers where the tap was<BR>
>generally administered with a nice heavy wrench. Eventually, passed on<BR>
>to the general public with the widespread use of consumer<BR>
>electronics.  <BR>
><BR>
>Okay, admit it...how many of you whack the TV/radio/etc with the palm<BR>
>of your hand to "encourage" the darn thing to work? <BR>
<BR>
 And here I was thinking of "Hit any key to continue."<BR>
<BR>
GC<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 00:11:50 -0800<BR>
From: Evyn MacDude <wmacdude@worldnet.att.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Peer Review Problems (Re: Sci fi films)<BR>
<BR>
Keith Johnson wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> The first time I saw Star Trek: the Next Generation, I thought they had a<BR>
> lounge instead of a bridge.  The tactical station is a perfect location for<BR>
> a DJ, and I always thought that an ensign should walk in with some drinks<BR>
> for the well connected lounge lizards in the big chairs watching the wall<BR>
> sized tv screen.<BR>
<BR>
That would explain Deanna Trois wardrobe by Slutware Inc.<BR>
<BR>
> ObTrav:  The Scout Service functions via peer review, and it (like all<BR>
> systems) has a potential for abuse. How many Scout ships/teams are turning<BR>
> a blind eye to the abuses of their fellow Scouts so that those others will<BR>
> turn a blind eye to their own abuses?  Beyond the ISS Lounge Ship<BR>
> Enterprise, what about more serious violations?  What if other scouts (the<BR>
> PCs) stumble on a group that is involved in grey market smuggling and<BR>
> discover that they can profit if they don't report them to their<BR>
> superiors?  What if they discover that those superiors are the ones<BR>
> organizing the smuggling ring?<BR>
<BR>
 What? You mean all Scouts aren't Smugglers?<BR>
Shock.... Dismay.....<BR>
<BR>
- --<BR>
Evyn...<BR>
<BR>
Get six jolly cowboys to carry my coffin<BR>
Get six pretty maidens to bear up my pall<BR>
Bunches of roses all over my coffin<BR>
Roses to deaden the clods as they fall<BR>
 Laredo<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:54:35 PST<BR>
From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)<BR>
Subject: Re: early christian writings and roman rumors<BR>
<BR>
In mail you write:<BR>
<BR>
> Robert Prior <robert_prior@sympatico.ca> wrote:<BR>
><BR>
>>>Or "Surspised By Joy", by C.S. Lewis, a Sci-Fi writer and infamous atheist.<BR>
><BR>
> Various other people wrote:<BR>
>> No he wasn't!<BR>
><BR>
> Sigh.  Irony is dead.<BR>
><BR>
> I guess we DO need to start sprinkling smileys like periods.<BR>
<BR>
Well, you do have to remember that it had been a "serious" thread up<BR>
until then. And since *tone* can't come thru on a post, your only hope<BR>
other than a smiley would have been trying "empasis marks" which would<BR>
like have made it even worse. <BR>
<BR>
So your choices are pretty much smileys or:<BR>
<BR>
<irony>infamous atheist</irony><BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)<BR>
 shadow@krypton.rain.com        <--preferred<BR>
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com     <--last resort<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 00:03:17 PST<BR>
From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)<BR>
Subject: Re: Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Machinery (was Re: Sci fi films)<BR>
<BR>
In mail you write:<BR>
<BR>
> Glenn Goffin wrote:<BR>
><BR>
>> >> A semi-rational attitude. If you *need* the<BR>
>> >> equipment, it's not working, and you don't have<BR>
>> >> "proper" tools or instructions "bashing" it ...<BR>
>> >> *is* a reasonable response.<BR>
>  <BR>
>> >I've found lots of engineering PCs (and non-<BR>
>> >engineering PCs  too) bash things as a first resort<BR>
>> > ...  "Emergency  Repair  Procedure number 1" they<BR>
>> >call it.<BR>
>  <BR>
>> I've heard it called "percussive maintenance" -- not<BR>
>> in Traveller, but by real world engineers.<BR>
><BR>
> Ah yes, the barbaric "Tap Test", a time-honored tradition among<BR>
> engineers, particularly *mechanical* engineers where the tap was<BR>
> generally administered with a nice heavy wrench. Eventually, passed on<BR>
> to the general public with the widespread use of consumer<BR>
> electronics.  <BR>
><BR>
> Okay, admit it...how many of you whack the TV/radio/etc with the palm<BR>
> of your hand to "encourage" the darn thing to work? <BR>
<BR>
Never. But I owned one of the *infamous* Seagate ST-251 40 meg drives<BR>
with "stiction" for many years. Since I rarely turned the system off,<BR>
it wasn't much of a problem. But if I *did* turn it off, I had to<BR>
unbolt the drive and give it a quick, *hard* tist to break the heads<BR>
free. then quickly rebolt the drive and apply power.<BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)<BR>
 shadow@krypton.rain.com        <--preferred<BR>
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com     <--last resort<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 00:13:41 PST<BR>
From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)<BR>
Subject: Re: Bifrost-class Solar Shuttle (GTL9)<BR>
<BR>
In mail you write:<BR>
<BR>
>>There's something *seriously* wrong here. Light sails, without laser<BR>
>>boosts or the like *can't* do even *1* g. 1/10th or even 1/100th g is<BR>
>>more like light sail performance. They are *not* high accel!<BR>
><BR>
>>> 1 light sail (145.1 tonnes thrust)      0.5     22.7    25.0    -       -<BR>
>><BR>
>>And just how *big* is this sail? And what does *it* mass? I bet you<BR>
>>forgot to add the mass of the sail to the mass of the ship before<BR>
>>calculating acceleration.<BR>
><BR>
> Then fire off a letter to SJG and get GURPS space errataed, because that's<BR>
> where I pulled the numbers from. Just a simple thrust/mass=acceleration<BR>
> calculation.<BR>
><BR>
> I can see no reason why a light sail couldn't be a high-acceleration<BR>
> vessel, assuming that the sail was big enough. GS/3 doesn't give sizes, but<BR>
> I suppose you could do a backwards calculation from the thrust and average<BR>
> solar energy in earth orbit.<BR>
<BR>
That's the point, it's *not* the solar energy, it's the solar *wind*. <BR>
<BR>
> Looking at page 21 of "Starsailing" (by Freidman), I see that F=2P/c<BR>
> (force, power, speed of light). Given that F=ma, then we can derive a=2P/mc<BR>
> (acceleration, power, mass, speed of light)<BR>
><BR>
> The mass of the yacht includes the mass of the sail (check the numbers).<BR>
> Dividing tons thrust by tons mass should give me the acceleration in<BR>
> gravities, right?  (I usually work in Newtons and kilograms, not American<BR>
> units, so may well have made a mistake here.)<BR>
<BR>
> In any case, we can calculate teh area of the sail because we know the<BR>
> force. 145.1 tonnes thrust is 145100 kg times 10 m/s/s (approx), thus<BR>
> 1451000 N. Rearranging the first equation about to get P = Fc/2, I get P =<BR>
> 1,451,000 x 300,000,000 / 2 = 2.2 x 10e14. The Square root of that is about<BR>
> 10e7, so the sail is a square 10000km along a side.<BR>
<BR>
Right. now stop and consider this. 2.2e14 m^2 for sail area. If that<BR>
sail weighs a *miilgram* per square meter, that makes it mass 2.2e11<BR>
kg. or 2.2e8 *tons*. That sail with a 145.1 tonne thrust masses 220<BR>
*million* tonnes. 145.1/220e6 = 660 one-billionths of a g accel. <BR>
<BR>
> According to GS/3, the sail is 240 square miles per space. I see that I<BR>
> forgot to multiply the thrust by 0.5 (for the half space) but GS/3 lists<BR>
> the thrust as 160 tons/space.<BR>
<BR>
> I think we've found an errata in GS/3.<BR>
<BR>
Major league. Alo note my figures above regarding the *mass* of the<BR>
sail as it relates to area.<BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)<BR>
 shadow@krypton.rain.com        <--preferred<BR>
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com     <--last resort<BR>
<BR>
------------------------------<BR>
<BR>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 00:07:57 PST<BR>
From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)<BR>
Subject: Re: Police Career<BR>
<BR>
In mail you write:<BR>
<BR>
>>     Bomb Squad (Bomb & Explosive Ordnance Disposal)<BR>
><BR>
> Munitions and Special Package Division.  Also responsible for<BR>
> non-explosive devices of mass effect (e.g., poison gas emitters).<BR>
<BR>
And nukes, as terrorists *will* be able to get them, given how "common"<BR>
the missile rules require them to be. :-)<BR>
<BR>
Also, here's a lovely thought. Just imagaine what a bunch of terrorists<BR>
with a nuclear damper could do. Set it to speed up decay and aim it at<BR>
those nice granite government buildings. <BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)<BR>
 shadow@krypton.rain.com        <--preferred<BR>
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com     <--last resort<BR>
<BR>
------------------------------<BR>
<BR>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 00:23:23 PST<BR>
From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)<BR>
Subject: Re: Iridium-class Solar Yacht (GTL12) - corrected<BR>
<BR>
In mail you write:<BR>
<BR>
> A 'corrected' version of the Iridium. Whether sails like this are possible<BR>
> is up for grabs. In particular, I doubt this thrust is available in the<BR>
> specified sail size (360 sq mi). I'll reality-check the GS/3 rules tomorrow.<BR>
<BR>
360 mi^2 = ~932 km^2<BR>
<BR>
And it looks like your table makes the mass 68.0 (tonnes?). <BR>
<BR>
Which gives the sails a mass of ~73 *micrograms*/m^2. Yeesh!<BR>
<BR>
217.7 tonnes thrust?<BR>
<BR>
That gives ~233 micrograms of thrust per m^2.<BR>
<BR>
times 9.8 should give us Newtons. 2.29e-3 N/m^2<BR>
<BR>
> Looking at page 21 of "Starsailing" (by Freidman), I see that F=2P/c<BR>
> (force, power, speed of light).<BR>
<BR>
Therefore:<BR>
<BR>
P=F*c/2<BR>
<BR>
P= 2.29e-3*3.8/2<BR>
P= 343e3 W<BR>
<BR>
That's 343 kW/m^2!<BR>
<BR>
Sheesh! Solar flux at 1 AU is abou *1* kW/m^2<BR>
<BR>
Well, we've found the error...<BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)<BR>
 shadow@krypton.rain.com        <--preferred<BR>
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com     <--last resort<BR>
<BR>
------------------------------<BR>
<BR>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:55:45 +1300<BR>
From: "Rupert Boleyn" <rboleyn@paradise.net.nz><BR>
Subject: Re: Rule of man coin<BR>
<BR>
On 30 Nov 99, at 6:26, Leonard Erickson wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> When I was training for a job once, we were using citric acid in<BR>
> *bulk*. And since this was training, they were using the cheaper "large<BR>
> crystal" form. Instead of being like granulated sugar, this was lumps the<BR>
> size and shape of rock candy!<BR>
> <BR>
> Which led to a prank. Citric acid *is* very sour, but it's not going to<BR>
> hurt you to eat a crystal or two of it. <BR>
> <BR>
> So we offered some friens some rock candy (and popped a piece or two<BR>
> ourselves to allay their suspicions). If you are *expecting* this<BR>
> super-sour taste, it's no big deal. Thus we smiled away as we sucked on<BR>
> them. Our friends were expecting *sweet*... <eg><BR>
<BR>
My isiters and I used to pull a similar prank on our friends. My <BR>
parents have a fine assortment of citrus trees, including mandarins and <BR>
limes. One of the lime trees produces orange limes that are very <BR>
similar in appearance to a mandarin fruit (the only difference is a <BR>
point on the bottom of the lime). We'd mix a few limes in with the <BR>
mandarins when our freinds came round...<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
- --<BR>
Rupert Boleyn <paradise.net.nz><BR>
Wellington, New Zealand<BR>
<BR>
A pessimist is an optimist with a sense of history.<BR>
<BR>
------------------------------<BR>
<BR>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:55:46 +1300<BR>
From: "Rupert Boleyn" <rboleyn@paradise.net.nz><BR>
Subject: Re:  Low TL Medicines <BR>
<BR>
On 30 Nov 99, at 12:11, Glenn Goffin wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> >Similarly, there has been a trend in antihistamines <BR>
> >toward compounds that are less likely to cause <BR>
> >drowsiness.  <BR>
> <BR>
> Of course, you won't get drowsy at all if you don't<BR>
> take anti-histamines.  Acupuncture, vitamin C, and<BR>
> water all help clear the sinuses with no side effects.<BR>
<BR>
However this doesn't (unless your acupuncturist (?) is a whole lot <BR>
better than the one I tried) help much with hayfever. For that <BR>
antihistamines or, more recently, steriods are the way to go.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
- --<BR>
Rupert Boleyn <paradise.net.nz><BR>
Wellington, New Zealand<BR>
<BR>
A pessimist is an optimist with a sense of history.<BR>
<BR>
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